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		<title>Travel Weakly: To YTB or To Not YTB</title>
		<link>http://www.travelresearchonline.com/blog/index.php/2009/06/travel-weakly-to-ytb-or-to-not-ytb/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 12:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard Earls</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Publishers Corner]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Most of you will have by now read Travel Weekly&#8217;s assessment of May 25, 2009 entitled YTB: What&#8217;s true and what isn&#8217;t. The &#8220;National Newspaper of the Travel Industry&#8221; published this piece in advance of their upcoming 2009 Power List. Get ready YTB recruiters: my guess is that you are about to be handed another [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of you will have by now read <em>Travel Weekly&#8217;s</em> assessment of May 25, 2009 entitled <em><a href="http://www.travelweekly.com/article3_ektid195016.aspx" target="_blank"><strong>YTB: What&#8217;s true and what isn&#8217;t</strong></a></em>. The &#8220;<em>National Newspaper of the Travel Industry</em>&#8221; published this piece in advance of their upcoming <strong>2009 Power List</strong>. Get ready YTB recruiters: my guess is that you are about to be handed another piece of marketing that will again be worth millions.  The unverified numbers reported by YTB&#8217;s home office to <em>Travel Weekly&#8217;s</em> team of crack accountants, auditors and fact checkers even now are being scrutinized for inclusion on the 2009 Power List. </p>
<p>But the May 25th <em>TW</em> article is in need of a few points of clarification. <span id="more-3019"></span></p>
<p>Firstly, let&#8217;s makes TRO&#8217;s position clear.  YTB is an <a href="http://www.travelresearchonline.com/blog/index.php/2008/11/travel-weekly-and-the-paradigm-of-annoyance/" target="_blank">elaborate travel club</a>, exploiting the fact that the travel industry has failed to define for itself a technical definition of the term &#8220;travel agent&#8221;.  The bulk of YTB&#8217;s revenue is generated in the recruitment of new members who in turn recruit more new members. TRO has actively campaigned against companies that recruit members into the travel industry with the promise of travel benefits, launching the site <a href="http://www.cardmills.com">www.cardmills.com</a>. <em>Travel Weekly</em> last year awarded YTB a spot on its <strong>2008 Power List</strong>, a fact that is repeated endlessly in YTB recruitment literature, websites and newsletters.</p>
<p>As a note &#8211; the creation of &#8220;Industry Awards&#8221; or &#8220;Reader&#8217;s Picks&#8221; is a publishing gambit to garner favor with select advertisers and are generally suspect unless audited by third parties rather than publishers.  More about that in a few moments.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s spend just a few minutes looking at the facts using TW&#8217;s format:</p>
<p><strong><em>Most suppliers don&#8217;t care how YTB gets business as long as it delivers bookings</em></strong></p>
<p>&#8220;Somewhat True&#8221; says <em>TW</em>. &#8220;Not true&#8221; says <em>TRO</em>. YTB has a limited list of suppliers with which they do the vast majority of their business and has worked arrangements to assist in those transactions. The arrangement with Carnival that dictated a special booking procedure for YTB agents is a good example.  As <a href="http://notravelmlms.blogspot.com/2009/02/hidden-cost-of-mlm.html" target="_blank">John Frenaye and others have pointed out</a>, doing business with untrained people through communication channels that are typically reserved for trained travel agents is expensive.  Moreover,  it is highly likely most of these bookings are &#8220;friends and family&#8221;, meaning that the suppliers who do business with YTB are rebating commissions to people to take vacations.  This, of course, really amounts to only a further discount. But the suppliers do care, and they understand what they are doing. Well over 1/2 of all cruise inventory is no longer available to YTB affiliates.</p>
<p><strong><em>Travel Weekly is being played for a sucker when it includes YTB in the annual Power List</em></strong></p>
<p>According to <em>TW&#8217;</em>s May 26 article, this is not true.  We agree. <em>TW</em> is not being played for a sucker. <em>Travel Weekly</em> is very deliberately promoting YTB&#8217;s presence in their articles, thereby increasing <em>TW</em>&#8217;s circulation numbers by 70,000+. Advertisers want to know how many readers look at articles, how many people attend trade shows and how many click-throughs were generated.  YTB&#8217;s number of affiliates nearly matches the number of all other traditional travel agents. Garnering favor with YTB on the Power List doubles <em>TW&#8217;</em>s circulation and keeps YTB recruits reading <em>TW</em>. Other publications, like <a href="http://www.travelresearchonline.com/blog/index.php/2009/03/card-mills-give-em-shelter/" target="_blank"><em>TRO</em></a> and <em>Travel Agent</em>, have openly denounced YTB&#8217;s methods. <em>TW</em>&#8217;s numbers must be off the charts each time they publish a story that mentions YTB favorably or places YTB in a position to utilize their reporting for marketing purposes. What these numbers do not indicate, however, are the actual bookings that all of the additional activity truly generates for suppliers, and at what cost. If the quality of your readership is weak, then all of that supposed circulation activity is a phantom of some publisher&#8217;s imagination. <em>TW </em>is not being played for a sucker &#8211; it knows exactly what it is doing. Added to the thousands of traditional travel agents that still demonstrate unrequited loyalty to <em>TW</em>, the YTB numbers bolster the story that <em>TW </em>can tell their advertisers. No, it is not TW who is being played for a sucker here.</p>
<p><strong><em>YTB is a card mill</em></strong></p>
<p><em>TW </em>parses the phrase &#8220;card mill&#8221; to conclude &#8220;Not True&#8221; because YTB does not issue ID cards.  However, a physical card is not the point on which the definition of &#8220;card mill&#8221; turns.  Card Mills are companies that recruit on the basis of supposed travel benefits. I would point <em>TW</em> to <a href="http://www.cardmills.com">www.cardmills.com</a> for more information.  Next, take a look at <a href="http://www.ytbendurance.com/teambeldo/index.htm" target="_blank">YTB promotional efforts </a>most of which take place at the <a href="http://kleinsytbtravel.com/" target="_blank">affiliate level</a>.  Google the phrase “<em>savings on your own travel</em>” and see what turns up.  Then decide for yourself. You may reach a different conclusion than <em>TW</em>&#8217;s analysts.</p>
<p>I could go on, but the traditional travel agents that responded to this article did a fair job of deconstruction.</p>
<p>Companies that recruit on the basis of supposed travel benefits are bad for this industry.  Period. <em><strong>TRO</strong></em>, in support of traditional travel agents, has very clearly stated its position.  Other companies in the travel media have not. In fact, some are <a href="http://notravelmlms.blogspot.com/2009/03/ytb-loses-book-ccl-and-gains-mailpound.html" target="_blank">actively supporting such companies</a>. By contrast, <em>TRO</em> and <em>Travel Agent</em> magazine have very strongly condemned the practice. Apparently, the majority of traditional travel agents are OK with supporting media that fails to support them. Others, however, have decided that TW cannot have it both ways. To YTB or to not YTB? How about you?</p>
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		<title>Travel Weekly, YTB and the Paradigm of Annoyance</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 04:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard Earls</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Publishers Corner]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you Google &#8220;YTB&#8221;, as any potential YTB recruit might, here is the entry that the search engine will serve up to you as the top search result:
YTB International, Inc. was recognized as the 26th largest seller of travel in the US in Travel Weekly&#8217;s 2008 Power List, based on 2007 annual retail value &#8230;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you <strong><em>Google</em></strong> &#8220;YTB&#8221;, as any potential YTB recruit might, here is the entry that the search engine will serve up to you as the top search result:</p>
<p><em>YTB International, Inc. was recognized as the 26th largest seller of travel in the US in Travel Weekly&#8217;s 2008 Power List, based on 2007 annual retail value &#8230;</em></p>
<p>That is some pretty powerful recruiting material. After all, <a href="http://www.travelweekly.com" target="_blank"><em>Travel Weekly</em> </a>is “<em>The National Newspaper of the Travel Industry</em>” according to its tagline.  <em>Travel Weekly&#8217;s</em>  “<strong>About Us</strong>” page indicates that <em>Travel Weekly</em> provides “all <em>of the late breaking news, analysis and research that travel professionals need to succeed</em>.”  In the case of YTB, in fact, <em>Travel Weekly</em> has provided more – it has provided the credibility YTB has needed to succeed.</p>
<p>In writing this editorial, I am breaking some rules of good etiquette.  I am quite frankly criticizing a competitor, and therefore my motives could be deemed suspect.  I’ll take my chances.</p>
<p><strong>Put simply, why does Travel Weekly and its very serious and competent editors continue to provide YTB a platform from which it is able to more capably market itself to the detriment <span id="more-1177"></span>of professional travel agents?</strong></p>
<p>In its <a href="http://apps.travelweekly.com/Multimedia/062308_PowerList/index.html" target="_blank">2008 Power List</a>,  <em>Travel Weekly</em> listed YTB with <strong>131,101</strong> outside sales representatives and $414.5 million in sales. <em>Travel Weekly</em> defines “Travel Seller” as an”<em>intermediary that sells travel through any medium (electronic and telephone for example) directly to consumers</em>.” By this definition, according to <em>Travel Weekly</em>, YTB is the 26th largest seller of travel in the country. They are listed alongside AAA, American Express, Carlson, other entities that most consumers would recognize as travel agencies.  In its editorial, it is clear that <em>Travel Weekly</em> is according YTB the same status as the other companies there represented, travel agencies all.</p>
<p>Naturally, YTB is quite proud of the honor and includes mention of its award in the boilerplate language of <a href="http://www.ytbi.com/investor/PressReleases.html" target="_blank">every press release </a>issued by the company (go ahead, check it out). The status conferred on YTB by <em>Travel Weekly</em> is front and center on the YTB website and on its promotional literature.  In fact, it is not a stretch to say that <em>Travel Weekly&#8217;s</em> knighting of YTB is <em>the single most significant marketing coup</em> YTB has achieved. Who could blame YTB for letting others know of the honor that the “most influential” travel newspaper has provided?  Indeed, it is hard to even speculate as to the value of the award to YTB, but it must be calculated in <strong>tens of millions of dollars</strong> as a substantial aid to their marketing and recruitment efforts.</p>
<p>There are those who might argue that <em>Travel Weekly</em> is simply and objectively reporting the facts.</p>
<p>It is not clear by <em>Travel Weekly’s</em> criteria, however, why YTB is listed as a seller of travel and not organizations like, for example, <a href="http://www.aarp.org/travel/" target="_blank">AARP</a>&#8217;s travel division. Like YTB, AARP  provides its membership with a booking engine, powered in its case by Expedia, along with other travel benefits.  Although exact figures are difficult to ascertain,  AARP&#8217;s numbers appear to rival those of YTB with regard to the retail sale of travel.</p>
<p>It is not likely that <em>Travel Weekly</em> editor in chief Arnie Weissmann will be interviewing any AARP members or even AARP travel executives in <em>Travel Weekly&#8217;s</em> upcoming <a href="http://www.travelweekly.com/ManualPages.aspx?id=181880&amp;terms=preview+2009" target="_blank">Preview 2009</a> where a YTB executive will be featured.  Why not?  AARPs program, its leadership and members, though they appear to meet <em>Travel Weekly</em>’s definition of a travel seller, do not call themselves travel agents.   YTB&#8217;s consumer-members do, however, call themselves travel agents. And yes, Arnie, real travel agents find that annoying.</p>
<p>It seems the most influential publication in the travel industry has swallowed uncritically the YTB marketing it has helped create. In its first virtual trade show, <em>Travel Weekly</em> sponsored a panel to discuss the “future of the home based travel agent”. In any panel convened to debate a serious topic, it makes great sense to invite notable professionals with years of industry experience.  On the panel was Scott Koepff of <strong>NACTA</strong>, Van Anderson of host agency <strong>America’s Vacation Center</strong> and Kim Sorenson of YTB. Really? By the way, Sorenson&#8217;s inclusion on this panel merited a YTB press release and is frequently cited in YTB marketing efforts as proof of his expertise in the travel industry.</p>
<p>In its upcoming virtual trade show, <em>Travel Weekly</em> has again included YTB’s Sorenson to sit in on a panel , the topic of which is “<em>What Proves You are a Travel Pro</em>?”  Interesting topic, but again, YTB receives a platform from which it can market to more recruits.</p>
<p>The list of grievances against YTB is a lengthy one. They recruit on the basis of “travel benefits” with an evangelical fervor that would make Jimmy Swaggart envious. But then anyone can be a travel agent, right?  Take a look at the <a href="http://ag.ca.gov/newsalerts/release.php?id=1596" target="_blank">California attorney general’s suit</a> against YTB and you can gather a pretty good compendium of the problems inherent in their “anyone can be a travel agent” sales pitch.</p>
<p>So after this lengthy introduction, <strong>what is the problem</strong>? Simply that <em>Travel Weekly’s</em> continuing to legitimize YTB in this way is <strong>cynical</strong> and without merit. Certainly it creates a controversy that will draw travel agents to attend events and read columns, but it also allows YTB to continue to use <em>Travel Weekly&#8217;s</em> equity in the industry to leverage its own  position and marketing. YTB is no more a travel agency, and its RTAs are no more travel agents, than AARP and people over 50 are respectively.  But apparently this fine distinction evades the editors at <em>Travel Weekly</em>. This is not, as Arnie Weissmann has <a href="http://www.travelweekly.com/Article.aspx?id=178138 " target="_blank">stated</a>, merely an annoyance.  It is a damaging slap in the face to true professionals to indicate that all one needs to be a travel agent is an online booking engine and a business card. It denigrates the study and hard work that bona-fide travel agents put into their craft.</p>
<p>YTB recruits who seek a free ride on the FAM train drain the life out of a vital resource for professional agent training and education.   YTB&#8217;s insistance that anyone can be a travel agent by owning one of their websites denigrates the value of the profession to the public and creates yet another hurdle for travel agents to leap across; but in this instance, the hurdle&#8217;s bar is raised by the &#8220;most influential&#8221; publication in the industry.</p>
<p>If memberships like YTB&#8217;s qualify as travel agents, then <em>Travel Weekly</em> should immediately change its circulation strategy to include the membership of AARP. Let me suggest they put YTB in charge of circulation &#8211; their qualifications as recruitment agents are without question.</p>
<p>It is, as <a href="http://www.travelresearchonline.com/blog/index.php/2008/10/a-state-of-disarray/" target="_blank">I have said before</a>, the travel industry’s own fault that it has so poorly defined the term “travel agent” that even the editors of <em>Travel Weekly</em> apparently don’t understand who is and who is not a travel agent. When I say &#8220;travel industry&#8221; in this context, I am excluding suppliers.  Suppliers have one mission &#8211; to sell their product. It is not their task, nor should it be their task &#8211; to define who is or is not a travel agent.  But the reality is that <em>Travel Weekly&#8217;s</em> editors and writers <strong>do </strong>know the difference.  Yet, the most &#8220;influential&#8221; publication in the travel industry continues to provide a platform for an organization that is antithetical to the ethic that real travel professionals &#8216;profess&#8217;.  You see, there is the distinction.  A professional &#8220;professes&#8221;&#8230; that is a far cry from evangelical recruitment of consumers to the pretense of professionalism. I am not suggesting that <em>Travel Weekly</em> should ignore YTB.  I am suggesting, however, that they should no longer provide YTB with a seat at the table of travel professionals and a platform from which to market.</p>
<p>YTB bears greater resemblance to a travel club than a travel agency.  As does AARP. The &#8220;most influential&#8221; publication in the travel industry should be able to figure that out and come to the support of bona-fide travel agents.</p>
<p>Let me suggest that <em>Travel Weekly</em> could adopt a more stringent set of criteria in next year&#8217;s <strong>Power List</strong> and for its definition of both &#8220;travel agent&#8221; and &#8220;industry expert&#8221;.</p>
<p> <em>Travel Weekly</em> should unequivocally  quit recognizing YTB’s recruits as a travel agents.</p>
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